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Ukip leader Nigel Farage: David Cameron match your words with action

By Western Daily Press  |  Posted: May 29, 2014

Ukip leader Nigel Farage: David Cameron match your words with action

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Ukip leader Nigel Farage believes David Cameron should match his words with action and allow Britain to regain control of its extradition processes.

he said: "Out of the ashes of his third place in the European elections, a new and stoutly Eurosceptic David Cameron appears to have emerged. The European Union must stop interfering so much in our national life, he says.

"He has branded it “too big, too bossy and too interfering”, and insists that the Brussels establishment must wake up to the message sent to it by voters.

"Well, an opportunity has arisen for the Prime Minister to show he is serious when he says his guiding principle is “nation states wherever possible and Europe only where necessary”.

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"For Britain is currently negotiating with the EU over whether to opt back into dozens of justice and home affairs measures that are being turned into European competencies under the Lisbon Treaty.

"We could stay out of them all. That would, after all, tally with the Cameron principle of “nation states wherever possible”.

"But it seems that instead, the Prime Minister is going to hand control to the EU permanently in 35 areas, the most notable of which is the European Arrest Warrant (EAW). It was under this warrant, remember, that Andrew Symeou was held in a Greek prison for four years before being cleared of involvement in a killing outside a nightclub.

"There is nothing necessary about allowing the EU to acquire the power to extradite British citizens on demand. Opting back in will mean the European Public Prosecutor gains the power to instruct national judges to issue arrest warrants. Extradition will become automatic, on the say-so of this all-powerful figure.

"This country has been managing extradition processes with other countries for centuries. Our courts have largely proved adept at balancing the rights of British citizens with the rights of foreign jurisdictions to uphold law and order.

"Extradition applications have been looked at on their merits, and the strength of the case weighed in the balance, without the automaticity of the EAW.

"This still works well in respect of many countries across the world: one thinks of the extradition of Shrien Dewani to South Africa last month to stand trial on a murder charge.

"That kind of extradition process respects national sovereignty, and is an example of independent nation states cooperating to their mutual benefit. But the EAW is a very different animal indeed.

"It hands over legal sovereignty to the European Union. It is more like rendition than extradition. No prima facie evidence is required, and national judges have almost no discretion so long as the paperwork is in order.

"In many of the inquisitorial legal systems on continental Europe, the consequences of extradition can involve being held in custody for questioning for years at a time.

"In a rational world, one would expect liberal opinion to be up in arms about this idea. But because it is about surrendering national sovereignty to Brussels, there is barely a squeak. Indeed, Nick Clegg is a particular cheerleader for the EAW, and championed it in his televised debates with me in March and April.

"The main reason he cited for submitting to the EAW was the need for a shared anti-terrorist effort.

"But in reality, the warrant is increasingly being deployed in much more mundane cases. Britons of good character are learning, to their utter incredulity, that they can be carted off at the flick of a pen.

"This hardly accords with the British legal tradition of “innocent until proven guilty”.

"I have never been soft on crime, and never will be. But our legal system evolved to include an extradition process that protected the ancient legal rights of individuals against the state, long before anyone thought of the EU, let alone the EAW. Our justice system is deeply embedded in our society and culture – and for all its faults, still commands a basic level of respect and assent.

"Being in charge of your own legal affairs is a basic signifier of a nation. If you don’t have it, then you are just an imperial outpost. So if Mr Cameron is remotely serious about his mission to defend Britain’s sovereignty, he should not be opting into the EAW – or a raft of other EU home affairs and justice measures.

This is the first big test of Mr Cameron’s new-found Eurosceptic backbone."

I would like to think he will pass it. But observing the behaviour of every Tory leader since Margaret Thatcher leads me to doubt that profoundly.

The European election results have shown that the British people have had enough of the salami-slicing of their sovereignty.

Far be it from me to advise Mr Cameron on how to re-engage with Eurosceptic opinion, let alone to restore some of his lost credibility. But if he falls at the first hurdle, he will certainly confirm the widespread view that the Conservatives are a lost cause for Eurosceptics.

That would be a gain for my party, Ukip, but a loss for my nation. I find myself hoping against hope that the Prime Minister will surprise me on this score.

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  • Free2opine  |  May 29 2014, 4:12PM

    In case the link doesn't work A kick in the teeth for firms and a gift for UKIP May 29, 2014 12:07 by RussellLuckock A judgment was handed down by the Court of Justice of the European Union, stating that Mr Z J Lock was entitled to his commission being paid whilst he was on his annual leave. Last Thursday, when the electorate was voting in the local and Euro elections, a judgment was handed down by the Court of Justice of the European Union, stating that a certain Mr Z J Lock, who worked as a salesman for British Gas, was entitled to his commission being paid whilst he was on his annual leave. This judgment has dramatic implications for UK firms, for the directive was implemented in 2008. Therefore Mr Lock is entitled to a nice fat cheque covering holiday pay for six years. It also means another chunk of paperwork that all employers will have to maintain, ensuring that the law is complied with. However, this gift to Nigel Farage does not end there, for I believe that it means that all payments made to employees in addition to basic pay will inevitably, sooner or later, be covered by this judgment. By way of illustration, workers who are on piece work rates will argue that they are fully entitled to receive their average weekly earnings paid when they are on holiday, rather than at the basic rate. The implications of this, when translated into an employer's liability, could be a crippling financial blow that may well send some companies to the wall, for there is no way that they could have made provision for such a staggering liability. The cost implications will have to be built into quotations when tendering for work and it immediately puts all European businesses, including the United Kingdom, at a disadvantage compared with the rest of the world. For employees who are specifically covered by this ruling on commission, it will be very good news, bringing an unexpected windfall. Employers who fail to tackle the problem can only be hit with increased costs. For other methods of additional payment which result in only the basic rate being paid when the employee is on annual leave, a lot may depend on how our Government believes that it can interpret the EU directive. There is no doubt, however, that a precedent has been set. Sadly, it appears that the British Government has little it can say on the matter, this being one of the penalties of being in the European Union. * Russell Luckock is chairman of pressings firm AE Harris

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  • Free2opine  |  May 29 2014, 4:07PM

    .....and I hope you aren't a small business who has a cash flow problem!!!!! http://tinyurl.com/p7zbxc9

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  • Free2opine  |  May 29 2014, 3:10PM

    You may or may not have seen this. All is not lost! UKIP's Nigel Farage on wind farms, global warming and Charles ... http://tinyurl.com/ktry5f

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  • PeterL  |  May 29 2014, 2:54PM

    No fish means no jobs. You need conservation and you need the experts to advise. As you don't listen to experts on Global Warming I don't trust you to listen to them on fisheries. Nuclear power is not sustainable by the way. Sort out the waste issue and I might reconsider. Fracked fossil fuels will eventually run out (having done lots of damage on the way) and we will eventually have to turn to renewables. Probably better to do it now, it doesn't hurt. I think the problem with Ukip is their drawbridge mentality, better off on our own and blow the rest. We cannot feed ourselves now let alone in the future when the Somerset Levels and Lincolnshire will be under water. We have just one world, we have to look after it and we have to work with the rest of the world's population, there are lots of lovely people out there. Lots of good points about fisheries by the way but don't forget many of them migrate. I have to say, I do rather feel there are only two parties worth their salt these days, such a pity the other one is climate sceptic, Robin, time you came back! Must stop now and get on with some work. Cheers P

  • Free2opine  |  May 29 2014, 2:32PM

    Er Robin.....I don't know if you have noticed, but, the present government is already cutting back on both solar and wind farms and encouraging fracking oil and gas if/when available. No different to Nigel, in the grand scheme of things. Oh and Germany have been building coal fired power stations, just recently just to update you. Hypocrisy comes to mind.

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  • Free2opine  |  May 29 2014, 2:23PM

    Probably more reason to get, new nuclear sustainable power stations up and running and fracking. Nothing riles Farage more than Europe's Common Fisheries Policy (CFP), and should he rise to power it would certainly have to be one of the first things he would address. UKIP believe that the CFP has been a complete disaster from a UK perspective, as tens of thousands of jobs have been lost as a direct result. In their 2012, local manifesto, UKIP advocate immediately withdrawing from the CFP and pursuing a policy of restoration of territorial water boundaries. This would potentially involve with the formation of an 'Exclusive economic zone', roughly 200 nautical miles from the coast, which the UK would have total control and create a fish profile network of any fish caught. It's expected that these tough policies would return a £3bn industry and put an end to the discarding of dead fish.

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  • Robin1966  |  May 29 2014, 2:11PM

    By the way, hi Peter, as a Yeovil born and bred, I was a member of SSGP in the early to mid-90's... :-)

  • Robin1966  |  May 29 2014, 2:10PM

    Absolutely. Farage's number one sin in my view is to completely reject the reality of man-made climate change, going on to threaten solar farms and wind farms and promising to build more oil, gas and coal plants. In a word, lunacy. That would not only threaten thousands of UK jobs in the growing renewable energy sector, it would exacerbate Britain's role in promoting the greatest environmental, social and economic disaster ever in human history, climate change. And I haven't even mentioned depletion yet - North Sea oil already peaked, US oil (with the exception of the recent shale oil/gas boom) already peaked, most major fields on the decline and OPEC's figures on their reserves questionable, peak gas expected around 2030 and peak uranium not long after. Farage and his supporters are living in world that has long since gone... the technical term for that is delusion.

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  • PeterL  |  May 29 2014, 1:59PM

    Do you lot know each other? What is certain about leaving Europe is the uncertainty that will surround all aspects of life, particularly the financial ones. Opinions vary. What is more certain is the impact on environmental issues as our country has a poor track record in this area. Look at china to see what unregulated polluting brings. We are beginning to get a grip on the fishing policy at last, no regulation leads to no fish (Grand Banks) unregulated business can only survive as long as the raw materials are available and that won't be for that much longer, everything is in short supply, the world is changing fast. You think immigration from the EU is a problem for the UK now, just wait and watch what happens in Southern Europe as climate change makes Northern Africa untenable. We need to look ahead and plan, not just for us but for the Global family, ignore them and they might just ignore us. Peter Lansdown Secretary South Somerset green Party

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  • Free2opine  |  May 29 2014, 12:47PM

    Meanwhile this statement from Hitachi after they lost out to Bombardier of Canada Hitachi Rail Europe Chief Executive Alistair Dormer said: 'We are disappointed to have lost out in this bid but this will not stop us making great trains for the British and European market from our factory at Newton Aycliffe.' NB they say BRITAIN and Europe, not just the EU. Vince Cable and John Major :((( What can one say!? What companies SAY they are going to do and what they actually do, is debateable. They won't cut of their noses to spite their face, not for anybody.

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